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Old 08-25-2008, 04:52 AM   #1
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Ways to live off on your own?

I have had enough with my parents, ENOUGH.

I hate living in this house with them and with my sister, she is a disgusting human being, doesn't shower, walks all over the parcket (spelling?) floor above me while I'm a sleep like a motherfucking elephant, waking me up every morning. Yells and disrespects my mom like no other, and demands the dumbest shit.

My dad has serious anger issues and I was able to put him in jail just a few months back for choking me, and my mom said it was my fault he's in jail.

House constantly dirty (not terrible, but I'm a very clean person).

Ok enough of my ranting, but I just can't live here much longer or I will go crazy and grow even more depressed.

I'd like to get out as soon as I can. Right now I have 10 bucks on me, no job, and just out of high school.

I could get a job someplace, sure, but what are they going to pay me? 8.50 won't keep up too well, would it?

One option I recently found is finding a roommate who already has a place. That way I pay something like 300-600 instead of 900 it costs for an apartment around here, but that still sounds like an awful lot. Couple that with furniture which I don't really have aside from a bed and a bad desk, and other kinds of bills..

Any tips/ideas?

edit: I think I posted this in the wrong section. Any chance this could be moved to group hug?

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Old 08-25-2008, 06:18 AM   #2
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Your first issue is to get a job, or two. No matter the pay, if you have $10 in your pocket now, you can work two hours and double that. No matter how much the money is, doubling your lifes savings/ownings/belongings is getting you somewhere. Use the little you will make at walmart or whatever, and progress from there while trying to find a better job!!
People live off minimum wage everyday in our nation!! If illegal immigrants can work under the table, under minimum wage and make a living, so can you. But remember, you might not like the work you are doing, but beggars cant be choosers.
Take hold of your situation, dont make excuses, and dont think your better than whatever work comes your way and you cannot fail. You may not be happy at the moment, but thats part of the grownup world!!!
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Old 08-25-2008, 07:33 AM   #3
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It's really not hard to live on your own. In fact, given your home life, you'll much prefer living on your own. It can be scary, yes, but here's what you need to do:

First, get a job (or even two jobs or three jobs) - just start working.

Second, if you don't have your own checking/savings account, get one, open it. If you have one and your parents have a hand in it, then get one that's completely in your name. That way they can't fuck with your money.

If you can make $300 a week, that's $1200 per month. You got to figure, you'll be spending X amount for cable and utilities, Y amount for food and Z amount for rent. Plus you'll obviously want a bit of dough on the side for fun. You can easily make $300 a week working minimum wage. Easy. So, build up from there.

If you're going to work minimum wage, then a roommate might be best for you. Heck, that might be the best thing anyway, because you can save a shitload of money every month and build up your finances.

If you get a job that's actually somewhat well-paying, then you can afford to live on your own.

Just make sure you put a little bit of money in your savings account every month. And don't you dare fucking touch that money unless it's a genuine emergency. You'll be poor as shit the first couple of years. Last thing you're going to want to do in case of emergency is go back to your parents for money.

Honestly, it's not that hard. You're probably only hesitant because you've never done this before. But you can take comfort in that the human race has survived because their children have moved away from their parents. In other words, this is natural and it's gotta happen some time anyway. Why not now?
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Old 08-25-2008, 09:24 AM   #4
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A couple simple rules to live by when living on your own.

Always look at Want VS Need.
-When you go out to buy something or sign a contract to add another bill onto your monthlies, sit back and think about it for a minute. Do you really NEED this item? Basic stuff like cell phone, water, electricity, and rent is pretty much all you need as far as bills go. You don't really NEED cable, you don't NEED internet (unless you require it for working from home), you don't NEED a home phone when you have a cell, and you don't NEED a car payment. If you want something and you have the extra money for it and THEN SOME then splurge a little. But at first you're going to be saving up just for the basics. Save up until you have 2-3 months extra money and then move out. Should only take you a couple months if you're still living at home and not paying rent. If your bills are 800 a month (600 rent, 75 phone, 25 water and 100 elec for example) and you're making 1200 take-home, then you have 400 dollars of which needs to go towards food and whatever is left into savings.

If you have a lot of free time, fill it with something that will either make you money or cost you nothing, but NEVER something that will cost you money monthly - UNLESS it is aiding your physical or mental health.
-For example, if you work 40 hours a week you can still work a 15-20 hour a week part time job, and that extra money will go towards not only your savings but also your resume and job experience.
- If you just can't fathom the idea of working two jobs yet (I worked two jobs for almost a year at ~100 hours a week and it's not all that bad) then join a health club and spend an hour or so a day there. It might cost you 20-30 bucks a month but you will at least be getting something from it. Spending a couple hours a week at the movies or in front of your computer/TV is NOT beneficial and is just wasting money.


Just learn how to live cheap at first, the more money you save the more money you will essentially be able to earn. Never, NEVER fully deplete your savings unless it is an emergency.

Health care or some sort of medical insurance is never a bad thing to have.


Use that $10 to take a bus (or better yet walk if you can) and go start applying for jobs. Over night stocking pays very well, so does construction if you can muster it. I've met construction workers that make 20+ dollars an hour. Same with painters.

Good luck.
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Old 08-25-2008, 02:51 PM   #5
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Thing is, I would probably have to save up, oh at least 3k before I can move out. That's about 6 months of living here. I'm really good with saving money, though. I don't mind living with just cereal 3 times a day because that's pretty much all I eat now, and just a basic bed. I would need my computer+internet connection, though, or at the very least cable with some movie channels.

I really wouldn't be able to do the low level jobs such as being a clerk, I did one just last year and it was really terrible, I found myself calling myself out weekly and when I was there one hour was going by like 4 hours. Damn it, this is so annoying.

I'm starting college today and my parents are fully paying for that (granted it is a community college, but it's the best I could get into with my grades anyhow, not complaining) and they got a car for free from someone my dad worked for (owner thought it was totally broken).
So I have a car, and going to college for free. And will be getting a job within the next few weeks because they're understandibly making me pay for gas. So I guess the best thing would be to live here for another 1-2 years until I can finish this applied associates degree, while I still have a free roof, and save up while I work during college, right after college land a decent job nearby, use the money I saved up during this 1-2 years and get the fuck out of here.

By the way is it possible to block my parents from being able to get in touch with me in any way? Like block their phone number? I find myself swearing every single day that after I'm out of here I would never talk/see them ever again

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Old 08-25-2008, 03:30 PM   #6
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Umm, I hate to be mean, but you have free college free car, if you want to cut your parents off, you need to cut yourself off. You cant have it both ways. It sounds like you might be the problem in the issue.
Kids, or new graduates now adays want everything with doing as little as possible. If you want to break away from your parents and not depend on them and not have them annoying you, that means paying for your own college, car, room and board.
You need to decide what you want, what is important and go from there.
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Old 08-25-2008, 05:58 PM   #7
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Umm, I hate to be mean, but you have free college free car, if you want to cut your parents off, you need to cut yourself off. You cant have it both ways. It sounds like you might be the problem in the issue.
Kids, or new graduates now adays want everything with doing as little as possible. If you want to break away from your parents and not depend on them and not have them annoying you, that means paying for your own college, car, room and board.
You need to decide what you want, what is important and go from there.

I endorse this response 100%.

You don't need $3k to leave, you need an ounce of determination. You said you just graduated from high school, okay, that was 2 maybe almost 3 months ago, what have you been doing in between?

It sounds like you want an easy answer. There isn't one, go, work, get the crapiest apartment you can afford and work to do better. You don't NEED cable, you don't NEED movie channels, guess what? There was life before TV. You don't NEED the internet, you can get access for free from your school or the local library.

I'm not trying to be mean either, but you're already not living in the real world, it doesn't sound like you'reready to start.
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Old 08-25-2008, 07:27 PM   #8
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Thing is, I would probably have to save up, oh at least 3k before I can move out. That's about 6 months of living here. I'm really good with saving money, though. I don't mind living with just cereal 3 times a day because that's pretty much all I eat now, and just a basic bed. I would need my computer+internet connection, though, or at the very least cable with some movie channels.

I really wouldn't be able to do the low level jobs such as being a clerk, I did one just last year and it was really terrible, I found myself calling myself out weekly and when I was there one hour was going by like 4 hours. Damn it, this is so annoying.

I'm starting college today and my parents are fully paying for that (granted it is a community college, but it's the best I could get into with my grades anyhow, not complaining) and they got a car for free from someone my dad worked for (owner thought it was totally broken).
So I have a car, and going to college for free. And will be getting a job within the next few weeks because they're understandibly making me pay for gas. So I guess the best thing would be to live here for another 1-2 years until I can finish this applied associates degree, while I still have a free roof, and save up while I work during college, right after college land a decent job nearby, use the money I saved up during this 1-2 years and get the fuck out of here.

By the way is it possible to block my parents from being able to get in touch with me in any way? Like block their phone number? I find myself swearing every single day that after I'm out of here I would never talk/see them ever again


Well this certainly changes everything.

Suck it up. You can deal with a "low level" job because you don't have the experience or qualification to do anything else. I had to be a doorman at a club before I could manage. I didn't just walk into a management position. Neither will you.

If your parents are paying for college and for your car I don't think they can be that hard to live with. After all you're getting a ton of shit for free that most people your age can't even work enough to pay for.

Put some money on the side, pay for your own gas and move out when you can. I certainly don't imagine you should be in any sort of rush.
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Old 08-26-2008, 12:32 AM   #9
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With a STABLE income, it's not too hard.

Get a good jub first and the rest should be easy. Make sure you have a reliable car if you need to commute.
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Old 12-04-2009, 02:43 PM   #10
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Try to get into a Finnish university and start working in some trend-bar in Helsinki.
There's a high demand on waiters speaking english fluently.
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Old 12-05-2009, 04:25 AM   #11
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nice first post.
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Old 06-05-2010, 06:40 AM   #12
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It is possible to live at your own. You can do it.

But think of your mom, sis and father. They all deserve (how much odd they are) to be treated well, not as they treated you.
Think that if you oppose to your current situation by quitting the home and trying to get to your own feet, it will be a hard experience and you will have to face many hardships while living at your own.
Life is not an easy game, you will judge the changes in your life from the first day of seperation. But think that wana try to make these hard efforts buliding your own home your own family.
When you will start a job and bring some cash in home, all of them will be changed and they will respect your words. Just try to react this situation in a positive way, you will see the change soon.
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Old 07-15-2010, 10:25 AM   #13
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High school grad that doesn't want to deal with a "low-level" job? Who do you think are the ones to fill those positions? Kids sense of entitlement these days...
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Old 07-15-2010, 09:18 PM   #14
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I have had enough with my parents, ENOUGH.

I hate living in this house with them and with my sister, she is a disgusting human being, doesn't shower, walks all over the parcket (spelling?) floor above me while I'm a sleep like a motherfucking elephant, waking me up every morning. Yells and disrespects my mom like no other, and demands the dumbest shit.

My dad has serious anger issues and I was able to put him in jail just a few months back for choking me, and my mom said it was my fault he's in jail.

House constantly dirty (not terrible, but I'm a very clean person).

Ok enough of my ranting, but I just can't live here much longer or I will go crazy and grow even more depressed.

I'd like to get out as soon as I can. Right now I have 10 bucks on me, no job, and just out of high school.

I could get a job someplace, sure, but what are they going to pay me? 8.50 won't keep up too well, would it?

One option I recently found is finding a roommate who already has a place. That way I pay something like 300-600 instead of 900 it costs for an apartment around here, but that still sounds like an awful lot. Couple that with furniture which I don't really have aside from a bed and a bad desk, and other kinds of bills..

Any tips/ideas?

edit: I think I posted this in the wrong section. Any chance this could be moved to group hug?


The first thing to realize is that you're going to be broke as a joke for a while, especially in this economy. If you can deal with that, go forward. Get a job. Get a shitty apartment. Get on with your life.

I know it sucks, but living paycheck to paycheck is good for you too. It helps you appreciate money.

That being said, best of luck, man. I'm sorry you're in a bad situation.
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